1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Andy » 15 Sep 2013

Afternoon folks,

Quick consensus required, just about finished these MBB 105 PAH 1 for the West Germans and looking at attaching the rotor discs.

Only problem is that they are so small with my usual disc on very little can be seen of the model, and with the PE rotors it does not look right....any thoughts? :scratch:

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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby deadhead » 15 Sep 2013

Couldnt you use a more transparent disk?
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Postby Piers » 15 Sep 2013

Discs look deadly to me...
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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Andy » 15 Sep 2013

deadhead wrote:Couldnt you use a more transparent disk?



The discs are cut from clear plastic and overlaid with a rotor 'wash' decal I print out, this makes them a little frosted in appearance.
I've tried with clear discs in the past, however the rotor wash to is too harsh.
I'm trying to come up with a way of softening the wash and maintain the clarity, although when you look through a rotor wash it is a little opaque.

Clear hand drawn rotor wash.
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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby StevenWelch » 15 Sep 2013

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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby panzerfaust200 » 15 Sep 2013

although i love the decal, i'd go with a clear disc with no frosting/wash :hello:
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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby mausmann » 15 Sep 2013

Lovely models.......... :thumbsup: Personally I'd go with a disc for sure, with slight frosting, but not opaque.
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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby a10warthog » 15 Sep 2013

:wave: great stuff i would go for clear disc with hand painted or try permant marker on


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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Andy » 15 Sep 2013

a10warthog wrote::wave: great stuff i would go for clear disc with hand painted or try permant marker on


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Tried that Ian, dosen't look too great :cry:

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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby mausmann » 16 Sep 2013

Andy wrote:
a10warthog wrote::wave: great stuff i would go for clear disc with hand painted or try permant marker on


ian


Try airbrushing the marks on, that worked for me.... :thumbsup:


Tried that Ian, dosen't look too great :cry:

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I airbrushed mine on, better than a pen........ :thumbsup:
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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Colonel White » 16 Sep 2013

Another vote for the clear disc and hand drawn rotar :thumbsup:

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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Andy » 16 Sep 2013

Cheers for the comments folk's,
I've gone for (at the moment :scratch: ) clear discs, that way you can see some of the model.
More trial and error work on rotor discs methinks................

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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Chris S » 16 Sep 2013

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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Iain R » 16 Sep 2013

Absolutely blinding work! The fact it's so dinky just makes it even cooler! :yahoo:

Have you tried using the translucent Tamiya "smoke" paint to paint on the spinning rotor blade on a clear disc, rather than plain black? It gives a slightly more subtle effect; or else you could try overspraying the entire disc with a very thin coat of it, to give a sort of middle ground between a clear disc and an opaque disc. Just a suggestion if you're looking to fart about with it a bit...

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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby panzerfaust200 » 16 Sep 2013

Clear works well :good:
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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Grignotage » 16 Sep 2013

I actually prefer it with the rotors rather than the disc---but that's just me!
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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby salpao » 28 Sep 2013

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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby sandsmodels » 28 Sep 2013

the clearer ones look far better imho
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Re: 1/300 MBB 105 PAH 1.....disc or not?

Postby Spurious » 28 Sep 2013

I'd say go with a clearer disc, it obscures the miniature far less but keeps a good 'in motion' look.
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